41 thoughts on “Flash In The VoIP Pan”

  1. ContactAtOnce! is another application that leverages Flash for VoIP. It enables online publishers to better connect site visitors with advertisers. With ContactAtOnce! both presence and web-based communiciation options can be enabled within ads and listings. Because the application is purpose-built for this, certain softphone features such as dialing are unnecessary and therefore Flash is working just great as-is. Flash offers huge advantages over Skype or other alternatives that require the site visitor to have a bulky client installed. In the advertising context, reach is very important and many more site visitors will have flash than any one VoIP client.

  2. Good Analysis. I was quite intrigued to learn that Dr Sinnreich was now at Adobe and could not tie the connection properly between SIP and Adobe. When one thinks of Adobe – pdf is what comes to mind first rather than Flash. The value of SIP goes beyond XMPP, Jabber and Gtalk because this will be the future wireless protocol (IMS). So that extends the Adobe-Flash story to mobile handsets as well.

  3. Communigate’s flash app shd be nifty. But there are ActiveX and Java VoIP apps that probably work about as well. IMO combining Communigate’s flash player with E164 will be the real killer (of Yellow Pages).

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  6. Flash VoIP: It boils down to this : Flash vs The Widget. Flash has maturity and brand behind it, the Widget has size, speed and the moniker of “2.0”, whatever that’s worth…

  7. The tubes will be hurting.

    “Om broke the news about Adobe’s secret VoIP start-up project. I knew about Adobe’s top-secret VoIP plans since June of this year.”

    Great blog entry on the topic, Keating.

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  9. If only Adobe could run away from the NellyMoser codec which powers audio capabilities in Flash it could leverage far more initiative in the VOIP way.
    Such a shame that one must pay 8000 euros just to have the right to use the codec 🙁

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  11. Flash is currently a streamed audio, so you can rest assured Adobe won’t be using NellyMoser for Voip. Rather they will go with a real-time Voip codec from GIPS. iLBC is royalty-free. Higher performing sound carries a royalty of some sort, all though I’m sure it would be very favorable for Adobe.

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  13. Actually, NellyMoser could very well still be retained for streaming capabilities. That’s a big part of the problem: keeping all the capabilities of Flash and adding new ones. Streaming plus real-time capabilities = large overhead. Can Adobe keep Flash small and keep all functionality?

  14. Voip has barely hit 2.0 yet, as nobody has come up with a browser plug-in or Ajax-enabled website to allow a user make internet calls without a client application on the PC. Does anyone know of any browser plug-in today?

    Surely Google is working on this. Or some developer who wants to shine.

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  17. Dean, the Busta features and functionality look very impressive. I don’t remember the press release anywhere. You’re definitely on top of the voip world with your browser plug-in. This warrants some press and news from bloggers. Om, check this Busta out and get the inside on it. Dean how is your call quality over IP? Got GIPS?


  18. Hi Rick (sorry for the inline conversation Om!) – I’m not from busta, I just ran a story on them when I heard about the product. The press release was very low key, but the guy behind it is Nick Ogden, same guy who started World Pay and he’s sunk $5m into the network, so it needs an eye kept on it. I interviewed Nick about Busta last week:-



  19. Sorry Rick, seems I can’t post URL’s here without them getting obfuscated with italics.

    You can find the interview on busta’s own homepage if you click on the “press” link.



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  23. Flash based VoiP is already being implemented by application vendor Centile, http://www.centile.com for its click to call product, in beta with call centers, web portals, telcos, we tried it and it works in all of the scenarios above listed, the race gentlemen has already begun

  24. great news. but some worries too.

    I think its a great initiative. but do we have to use a close server like flash media server for it. or we can connect any sip server like asterix.

    if we got the second one. surely the flash silverlight war is over.

  25. great news. but some worries too.

    I think its a great initiative. but do we have to use a close server like flash media server for it. or we can connect any sip server like asterix.

    if we got the second one. surely the flash silverlight war is over.

  26. Hi all

    I am trying to make a device/platform independent SIP/IAX soft phone for mobiles with Flash Lite. If someone has any idea of how to make it please contribute with me. I wanna use Asterisk server and RED5 server and Flash Lite. Please mail me to sayembd@hotmail.com if anybody is interested or you can just give me advice. You are most welcome.

    Thank you.

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