10 thoughts on “Cingular Vs Verizon, The Gloves Come Off”

  1. Om,

    The last time Cingular went into a sales push (post merger with PacBell Cellular) the drop off in service quality related to capacity issues was unbearable.

    My guess is the same think will happen.

    T-Mobile is the dark horse here. Don’t be surprised if AllTel/Ww makes move for T-Mobile USA some time in the future.

  2. Andy probably has no idea just how right he is.

    In FACT at this very moment T-Mobile USA is the 3rd largest carrier in terms of direct subscribers.

    Telecom has two massive problems, systemic overcapitalization and morons for mgt, thus the only means to survive is via Washington DC. Which in effect constitutes a private tax.

    Orwell’s 1984 was dead on, but today we have to face its manifestation in the form of the “Private Totalitarians”. (think hollywood and telecom, and inevitable catfight between them)

  3. Don’t be surprised if AllTel/Ww makes move for T-Mobile USA some time in the future.

    Gosh, I’d be surprised.
    T-Mobile USA – All GSM network
    AllTel/WW – CDMA.

    Consider also that AllTel and Verizon have been relying on each other with a very nice plan to roam on each other’s networks at minimal cost. It gives AllTel the ability to offer nationwide roaming like the national carriers (and is something it still needs even with Western Wireless) and Verizon service in all the rural markets (giving a legup on Sprint that way).

  4. ALLTEL and Western Wireless both used all CDMA networks and had nearly no overlap between their coverage areas.

    Verizon and ALLTEL both seem to be enjoying their current roaming deal, so I’m not sure that a merger would be pending. There are mergers that would make sense: for example, ALLTEL and US Cellular both have CDMA networks and their coverage would fit together quite nicely– US Cellular’s coverage is in the Pacific Northwest, Midwest, and New England, ALLTEL was primarily in the Southeast, some of the upper Midwest, and some Plains states, and Western Wireless was in the Central and Mountain time zone states.

  5. These companies may think they can keep making money by raiding/re-raiding the customers of their competition, but at some point, they need to start focusing on the bleeding off of their own customers. The real winners will be the ones who can offer decent customer service, good quality and fair prices. That’s something that none of them offer on a consistant basis.

  6. The story sounds like the beginning of a Star Wars movie. You left the part out where Cingular adopted Darth Vader as its mascot.

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  8. Glen, you are forgeting that Darth Vader (James Earl Jones) is Verizon’s mascot. Then again, the AT&T logo was know as the deathstar and now that SBC owns the brand they could give the logo to Cingular . . .

  9. I’d be more interested in hearing when Cingular will do something to make its “All Over” network more than hype. Right now, if you are Cingular customer (unless you came over from AWS) in New England there are over 1,000 AT&T WIreless towers that you are getting no benefit from whatsoever. In other markets, the situation is reversed. Nationwide, there are probably about 10,000 base stations that need to be replaced to make the claim of “Cingular and AT&T WIreless have joined forces” a reality.

  10. cingular- BEST verizon Worst verizon is a complete rip-off when they say that there are new ringtones of songs verizon never has it! and with verizon, everythings extra! ringtones with the actual song with the person(s) singing it- extra, or not even having it, phones-EXTRA!, actualy living- EXTRA! and cingular gets everything unlike retarded verizon! get cingular!

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