Ding Dong, Dial Up Is Gone

12 thoughts on “Ding Dong, Dial Up Is Gone”

  1. Except for those of us who live in areas where there is no broadband. I’d switch if I could, but comcast won’t bring the cable up our driveway. Well, apparently they would for $22,000. We said no. The situation pretty much stinks if you live in the country.

  2. Dialup is poor man’s Interent. AOL’s conceptual and marketing pick is right, but don’t ignore the infrastructure question. Until there’s affordable and real broadband Internet access everywhere, dialup will be very important. Even numbers above show 10 million in 2010, so I dont’ think it would be a good thing if policymakers get the idea that they can do away with the service. IIRC, Skype algorythms take VoIP down to 36k versus 90k required for most – so it should work over dialup. Compression will only get better over time.

  3. Erik, the problem with VoIP over dialup isn’t the throughput, it’s the latency and jitter. The modem bank sharing schemes that dialup providers use are just not cut out to support realtime services.

  4. Internet in the US… so slow. Some of you are asking if going broadband is not too early… come on, in Europe we have bandwidths up to 25 Mbit/s free calls 100 tv channels for 30 dollars a month and the next big thing we are all waiting is ftth which is already tested in France by Orange and which will hit the market in 2007 at prices lower than 80 dollars a month.

    the US is a big country and that’s really not good for internet connections. To sum up, Internet in the US is slow and expensive. Of course we all need a large bandwidth.

    If you want decent VoIP, take 100 kbit/s, SD TV: 3Mbit/s, HD TV: 8Mbit/s, internet: 10Mbit/s…

    Now let’s say you want to watch a HD channel, one of your kids is playing on the internet, the other downloading a divx and your wife watching TV also in HD. Do you think even 10 Mbit/s is enough? No we need a lotta bandwidth and the more we’ll have the more we’ll need cause the applications will follow. The roads were built before the cars…

    Yesterday, i took a look at Verizon’s ftth offers and I thought: “what a bunch of crooks!”, 180 dollars for 30Mbit/s and 4Mbit/s for the upload. First of all they could have offered 100Mbit/s for the download and offered the same speed for the upload! with ftth, upload speed = download speed but those crooks want to protect their friends at universal, sony… and prevent us from sharing at high speed mp3, divx…

  5. Jesse, few major players in wholesale voip/isp space use single functionality devices – like modem banks – anymore. e.g. Cisco AS400 supports modem dialup and VoIP over the same PSTN-facing port. This means that both ISP-bound dialup and dialup to VoIP or VoIP out to PSTN follows the same call path b/t handset and the “Internet”. In other words, it rides same copper, same TDM, goes through the same multiplexers, same COs, tandems, etc. So I’m not sure this hasn’t already or cannot soon be remedied.

    Either way, people need dialup where there’s not affordable broadband (or none at all).

    Thx.

  6. As cjewel observes (http://gigaom.com/2006/08/02/ding-dong-dial-up-is-gone/#comment-140118), dialup is NOT dead in non-urban settings, and won’t be for some time to come. My sister lives in a house that has never, in its 25-year existence, had cable TV because it’s beyond the range of the cable lines. Ditto any kind of broadband save satellite, which of course suffers from terrible latency. The distance from her house to the nearest CO can best be measured in miles, and it’s probably a two-digit value.

    So while dialup is certainly a shrinking slice of the market, it’s not gone yet.

  7. Erik, yes dialup player could upgrade their technology to support better quality VoIP, but they won’t. Where is the money to be made? If people just want cheaper calling over their PSTN connection there are already all kinds dial-around services that provide this. Trying to combine an ATA with a dial-up modem is more clumbersome than just requiring a prefix before dialing.

  8. First off; dial up is slow. Since broadband isn’t available in my area though I still use it. About to move though and switch over to Sun Rocket phone service (hope it works) and I haven’t decided which broadband service to go with yet. Is Vonage any good?

    I’m surprised by the Europe bandwith mention by Ludo. Now; I’m certain that is blazing fast. If only…if only here. I know someone in Scotland who gets just 8Mbps. I hope dial up is done away with soon because now everyone everywhere needs broadband in order to communicate, download, and do business online.

  9. I would love to have high speed internet but my problem is where I live. I cant not find any high speed service for my area. DSL and cable internet wont connect in my area and satalite internet is way too expensive. So I am stuck with dail-up internet service. So if they got rid of dial up service,then I would be without internet.

  10. Believe it when I say that Dial In Free (http://www.dialinfree.net) is the real deal. I was a little skeptical at first, wondering what strings were attached. The only real “string” is that if you need technical support, there is a five dollar charge. However, the setup is so simple that unless you really don’t know what you’re doing, you’ll never encounter a charge. All you need to do is get your local number, create a dialer, and boom, free internet. The only drawback is, Dial in Free is only available in the 231, 616, and 269 area codes.

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