23 thoughts on “Kinect + Skype = Video Calling Magic”

  1. People don’t care that much about video calls, certainly not enough to go out and buy an xbox and a kinect. So ok, their installed based of mostly gamers can use it (although unlikely, since they want to use their screen for their game, not to look at each other’s face), but how much revenue and profit will that be worth?

    I love the video chat capability I have on my android and iOS devices, but I never use them. I don’t know anybody else who does, either. Videoconferencing is useful for business meetings, and they buy expensive VC systems, but they’re not going to start buying Xboxes. So who will be paying off that $7B investment?

    1. In fact I know a lot of people who use Skype videochat to see & speak with relatives-friends abroad. And it also happens that a considerable proportion of these people happen to have Xbox+ Kinect. In my opinion, the combination of Skype+Kinect should be the next natural step.

      Maybe people will not buy a Xbox+Kinect to use Skype’s VC capabilities, but a proportion of existing Xbox-Live users (I believe the base is currently 40m) could be tempted to get a Kinect for VC reasons in addition to gaming given that they are already Skype users.

  2. Wow – and to think I’ve been able to video chat for free with up to 4 people at a time with my standard computer hardware and software for years – on my Mac! What an innovative company MSFT is! BTW – MSFT, with their several BILLION dollar a YEAR R&D budget didn’t invent Kinect, they bought it. Not very impressed – most of what was demoed was pretty blah and buggy.

  3. I am in Melbourne, Australia and having fiber connection to my home and reaching 100Mbps connections. So I’ve got bandwidth but I never use it for video calls. As simple as that. Agree with KenG I think big organization do care about the advanced video conferencing features but don’t think they go an purchase Xbox to do the deal.

  4. Kinect SDK for Windows will be out soon. So this is not just for Xbox. Windows 8 with Skype and Kinect integration will be very interesting. This would also boost Windows 8 tablet adoption.

  5. “certainly not enough to go out and buy an xbox and a kinect.”

    That is putting it mildly.

    The Xbox 360 is the biggest piece of garbage console in the history of gaming with its 50-60 percent failure rate, absurdly loud noise due to its shoddy design, etc.

    Kinect is nothing more than a poor ripoff of Sony PS2 era Eye Toy technology for motion tracking. The Kinect technology is so bad that the company that made it was passed over by Apple, Nintendo, and Sony before Microsoft in desperation bought them.

    The only people dumb enough to buy Kinect units are Xbox owners who have nothing else to buy for their consoles. Everyone who got suckered into buy one talk about how it is gathering dust in their junk closet(right next to their old and equally useless HD-DVD Xbox 360 addon).

    It is a clear indication of just what a desperation move by Ballmer this Skype purchase is if websites are actually trying to use Microsoft’s piece of garbage Kinect console addon as some sort of rationalization for this waste of 8.5 billion.

    1. This is pure and simple MS Bashing. Back up your facts before simply bashing on a technology (or company) you don’t like.

      Kinect is based on software technology developed internally by Rare, a subsidiary of Microsoft Game Studios owned by Microsoft, and on range camera technology by Israeli developer PrimeSense, which interprets 3D scene information from a continuously-projected infrared structured light. It was incubated by Microsoft at the start.

      The XBox and the Kinect are FAR from beeing garbage. Sure, the early versions of the XBox 360 had their problems, but the releases in the last years are very stable. I got mine in 2008…and it’s still running like a charm. Noisy? Pure whinning I think. Never bothered me. And again, the newest version is very quiet.

      Kinect is a very nice product. The Wii initiated the movement, but I had the chance to touch the 3 main technologies (Wii, PS3 Move and Kinect). The Kinect is by FAR the most complelling and fun to play with. It’s in early stages, but still is AWESOME. Playing Dance Central on the XBox + Kinect is much more exciting than Just dance 2 on the Wii – where you could simply sit down and just move your hand to have a high-score!!!

      Microsoft made bad software and hardware, but also good software and hardware. kinect falls in the latest in my opinion. Be more objective please.


    2. Wow I must have stepped into a time machine because this Xbox bashing rhetoric is about 3 or 4 years outdated. Way to keep up with the times Sony fanboy. RROD, noise, HD DVD??? Seriously? Check a calendar; it’s not 2007 anymore.

      As if Microsoft bought Skype to sell Xbox. The Xbox 360 has been the top selling console in America for the past 11 months. Every single month since the launch of Kinect they’ve broken all previous years sales records for Xbox 360. The Kinect is in the Guiness Book for being the fastest selling consumer electronics device in history. Kinect Sports has sold over 3 million copies worldwide already and Dance Central is quickly approaching the 3 million mark.

      Adding Skype to Xbox matters because 55 million people already have an Xbox 360 in their home. So now everyone with a Skype enabled smartphone, TV, blu-ray player, or computer can chat with the 55 million Xbox consoles in the world. (Remember that Skype is both audio and video chat). This makes Skype the predominant chat application in the living room, bed room, and on the smartphone. And frankly it makes Apple’s Facetime and Google Talk a joke. Skype is on Android, iOS, Blackberry and Windows Phone. Google Talk is only on Android. Facetime is only on iOS. Skype is on millions of web enabled set top boxes, televisions, blu-ray players, and game consoles. Google Talk is on? Facetime? They have no presence in the living room.

  6. I agree with Om. A lot is possible with Skype + Kinect (Kinect for Windows, not only Xbox).

    The cost of Kinect will only come down, and could likely will be less than US$99 by the holiday season, thus increasing the already incredible proliferation of the Kinect sensor.

    The technology behind Kinect can radically disrupt video communication, because the 3D sensing elements of Kinect can be used to enhance, augment, correct the video stream. The Kinected Conference from MIT is the tip of the iceberg, and Kinect (and Kinect-like technology) will ultimately make video much more useful.

    For an example of a company working in this space, and doing some incredible things, check out Nuvixa [www.nuvixa.com]. They have released a Sneak Peek of their upcoming Stage Presence product for Kinect on Windows which uses the 3D sensing elements of Kinect to create a very robust virtual green screen, which can be used to create content, for use with Skype, for driving WebEx-like meetings (you are on embedded on your PPT). [Disclaimer: I work for Nuvixa]

    1. Sanjay,
      The cost of Kinnect belies the true cost: XBox+Kinnect is $300-$400, and a decent enough broadband connection to make TV-calling worthwhile is probably over $75/mo (this assumes US market, but we are talking about MSFT here).

      Unless the situation on broadband caps is changed (perhaps MS can get a deal with incumbents like Verizon, Comcast and AT&T) there is no way any of this disruptive tech will make a dent in the market.

      1. Nuvixa only requires the Kinect camera, which connects to any PC through USB. It does not require the XBox

  7. Why do Telepresence comes to mind?. It’s because they stole the idea from Cisco. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr …..

  8. Microsoft already had its Messenger which could video and text chat.

    It’s ironic, because the only reason Messenger could not “go anywhere” was because Microsoft tethered Messenger to the Windows platform. Sure, there was once a Mac version, but it was a second class citizen, and Microsoft made sure that many features were missing. This is how Microsoft does cross-platform without really going cross-platform.

    So, the irony that Microsoft now buys Skype because it can “go anywhere”. Will it support the Mac, Linux, iPhone and Android versions of Skype?

    Skype will do little to help Windows Phone, apart from allowing Microsoft to force Skype to port to Windows Phone. In fact, Windows Phone will wither on the vine and die, regardless of what features Microsoft brings to it.

    Om Malik has often talked about products that are brought to market with all focus on the product, but not enough focus on the business plan. Windows Phone is one of those products. Its license-fee business model was destroyed by Google before Windows Phone ever arrived on the market. It stands no chance.

    Without Skype on Windows Phone being a hit (which it won’t be), there is less justification for Microsoft’s Skype purchase.

  9. All these apple ass kissers exposing themselves! They don’t realise how lame and one dimensional that Facetime looks compared to this.

    1. Yes, I agree with the above statement ” without skype on windows phone being a hit “. I still can not figure out the need to buy out skype as windows mobile platform would have used skype as an App on windows 7 mobile platform as we are using in android and iphone.
      And this video Tele conferencing thing has nothing to offer day to day mobile users for example how many people use the call conferencing feature available to us for so long in your daily life.
      No wonder skype came a long way in terms of video and voice quality in recent years but they were not able to cop with the emerging voip trends and new competitors like Google video and voice.

      It will be interesting to see how will facebook takes it. I was expecting FB to come up with some kind of video chat feature and this might have gave them something to think about.

  10. People don’t seem to realize how many more Skype users will be created by this buyout. Hotmail is still the number 1 web-based email service in the world and Skype will take the place of Live Messenger on the site as well as offline in Outlook. Skype will take the place of video Kinect on 50 million Xbox consoles. And Skype will presumably take the place of or plug into Windows Live Messenger (which is very popular in Europe). That represents hundreds of millions of new consumers connecting to the Skype network. And Skype was already doing an excellent job expanding the userbase by embedding into TV’s and Blu-ray players from Samsung, Panasonic, and Sony.

    Once the integration is complete Skype will instantly become the defacto standard for voice and video chat throughout the world. Apple Facetime and Google Talk become silo-ed boutique applications of marginal value because they are not ubiquitous.

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