The Palm Is Dead. Long Live the WebOS. So What?

25 thoughts on “The Palm Is Dead. Long Live the WebOS. So What?”

  1. They’ve taken a right first step but the second step is to far behind thus they will trip and fall.

    At the rate the mobile OS market is moving with Android it’s hard to see another mobile OS gaining significant ground without being licensed to multiple hardware manufacturers, and starting to release new product this summer????

    I like the idea of webOS from phone to desktop but don’t believe it will survive without multiple hardware companies supporting it. In other words, I don’t believe another Apple Inc. is going to spring up from HP.

    1. Looks its natural for us to be skeptical and the lack of developer support is still an issue, but I would hold me tongue for a little bit longer — given enough rope, people hang themselves anyway 😉

  2. What I don’t get is:  Why don’t they convert Ares into a context aware
    development environment.  In the process convert Spreadsheet “developers” into WebOs developers.
    Chasing the same developers as Google and Apple seems a loosing proposition. 

    1. Indeed. I think at this point very little is known about the developers, what they want and where they are going with this. What I can tell you from a presentation and a cursory glimpse, they have done a good job of integrating workflows into the overall OS.

      1. That’s what I thought too. Now it should be a small step to provide workflow in a lot of apps for the corporate crowd as a differentiation factor from the rest.
        But they need developers lots of them or a process which changes the assumption of “developer” and creates apps from the crowd for crowd.
        Don’t know if HP has the right research guys to drive that. Do they even do SW research?
        So far tablet development seem to focus on consumer display.

  3. The interface on the large screen of the TouchPad looks slick and makes the iOS interface look old and the apparent cohesiveness between the phones and tablet looks useful. So this could shape up to be a real iPad competitor. That said, I would be concernedby the “summer” release. In marketing speak that could mean August or even September. That’s a lof of time between the iPad 2 release (and maybe even the BB PlayBook).

  4. I don’t have a kingdom. If I get a TouchPad, I’m not getting an SD slot either.

    The only reason I bought an M500 to replace my wonderful Vx was the SD card slot. I have yet to figure out why HP and Apple insist that tablet users will want to pay for data plans or tethering just to get access to their files.

    (Well, I wouldn’t pay for tethering. But my phone’s rooted. I’m in the minority.)

    PalmPilot Pro (1997) -> III (1998) -> Vx (1999) -> m500 (2001) -> m515 (2002) -> Tx (2007) -> HTC Aria (2010)

  5. I’m a front-end Web developer and I was really excited about webOS (which uses standard Web technologies for app development). Then I got a Pre.

    Contrary to popular opinion, the hardware was solid build-wise although bit of an odd design for mass consumption. The screen was too small for comfortable typing but the keyboard was tiny as well. Also, the interface lagged considerably. As in waiting 2 seconds between each number on the dial pad slow. Not sure if that was hardware related, but it was a deal killer in the end. I craiglisted it.

    I’ll take another look but I’ll be very cautious this time. Windows Phone 7 looks to be a better dark horse in the mobile OS race, although HP has the patience to see this through as well. One thing’s for sure – this is going to be a great time for developers over the next 10 years.

  6. Om,
    Totally agree with you on the release date and price. OTOH, HP can afford to go slow with the WebOS products which Palm as an independent company couldn’t afford. The lack of Apps is chicken and egg thing. If a platform is popular apps will come, if apps are available platform will be popular.That IMO is the big issue for WebOS being not popular is the phone form factor. I would want to know your take on the form factor of the phones ? Do you think they should change the form factor ?

    The lack of apps issue will go away if they release an HTC Evo like phone with Pre 3 guts. WebOs is bound to be the No 3 platform after Android and iOS.

  7. So here I am in a very large organization with a very remote and understaffed IT department in a Windows Server/Exchange environment that is so incredibly security conscious.

    Explain to me how HP is going to introduce a new operating system into this technosystem.

    One look at a WebOS anything and the IT person moves on to the next problem with a simple ‘don’t support that.’

    As it happens, I actually have in my possession an HP 500 slate running Windows 7. Fastest thing on the market? No. But does everything, software and hardware, work and integrate seamlessly in my workplace? Yes. Does Al-Jazeera look really good on the screen? Yes.

    And the IT guy says “Kooel.”

    WebOS? Forget about it, corporate-wise.

    1. For native apps, I’d agree that the WebOS is a hard-sell to enterprise IT … but the device offers a somewhat unique cloud orientation (provided everyone else doesn’t catch up) and a solid, existing enterprise customer base (for almost everything except phones, tablets).

      With the cloud and client virt, aren’t we moving towards a world of device agnostic apps … and, as a result, device-agnostic organizations?

  8. not really chicken and egg. sell initial batch at highly subsidized price. once you have critical mass, developers will jump in. if they price their product same as iphone then iphone will get preference over HP because of apps. very few people actually check the hardware specs before making decision so using hardware as justification for comparable price will not work.
    checkout reviews for Xoom. even though it is better hardware, it’s price is making it look like lame duck.

    1. Sure Pricing is important. However I put it after the looks (not the specs). The phone has to look great first to get attention. The question of price comes later. The Pre shape is not mainstream. They lost on the looks for me.

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