Xcerion makes Internet OS real

22 thoughts on “Xcerion makes Internet OS real”

  1. Vow. This sounds like a radically new and direct approach to integrating desktop and internet. So who develops applications for xcerion OS? How much does it cost to rent a space on the server and save your environment? Is it fast enough for every day use.

  2. Sorry, how is this an operating system: does it boot, does it provide memory management, a file system, networking, a hardware abstraction layer for device makers? The problem I see is the web 2.0 weenies think an os is some watered down loose framework built around xml. They have been abstracted so far from reality with their frameworks that they believe they are the giant, not that they are standing on the shoulders of giants. Until I read some white papers regarding what kernel level services this “os” provides, I will remain skeptical.

  3. Dear jccodez sir,

    You are stuck in past. ‘kernal’ level doesn’t really matter to end users. the concept of OS is from last century only.

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  5. Stop. Stop stop stop stop STOP calling these web toys “operating systems.” They aren’t. Aren’t aren’t aren’t. ARE. NOT.

    They are shells. Application environments. Web desktops, at a stretch. But to call them an OS is just plain sloppy and inexact and the hallmark of fluffy, empty-headed marketing bimbo thought. Any of you buying into that should have your cellphones, laptops and any online account rhyming with “frittr” taken away until you apologize and can pass a quiz on the actual basic functions of an operating system.

    Let that terminology catch on and you’re going to have a whole generation of tech support nightmares where the techie asks what OS the user is running, and the poor, clueless, marketing victim/user says “WebWidgetMonstr 3.14 Beta Venti Mocha Half Caff” and a long, unfunny round of “Who’s on first?” ensues.

    Just knock it off.

  6. Hi Om

    Did you check out http://G.ho.st – the Global Hosted Operating SysTem. Unlike Xcerion it works with the best third party Web applications and unlike Xcerion you can try it our on the Web without meeting the CEO in Starbucks (although you would be welcome to do that too if you like)! Of course we wish Xcerion all the best too – what matters is that we free the users from the absurdity of having data and apps tied to one physical PC.

    Zvi Schreiber
    CEO, G.ho.st

  7. webtech,

    to answer your questions, the company says that XIOS will be free, and will be seeded with some applications built by the company.

    however they want individuals to build apps and they (Xcerion) will provide the infrastructure to sell and market those applications. they believe that XIOS’s ease of programming can create a new wave of shareware apps, and create opportunities for independent developers.

    on the speed issue, i did get to use it over a wifi connection, and it worked just fine. their offline element is what makes it interesting, since you can work offline but sync with the backend servers when you connect to the internet.

  8. folks, as about calling it an OS, i am guessing this is more of a marketing phrase used by the company (and others) because OS is a concept the mass market understands.

    A reader emailed me earlier today, and has this to say about Xcerion and its peers.

    I don’t think the intent is to replace an existing OS like Windows, Linux or OS X at the boot-level but rather to define an application platform in which data persistence and store are transparently managed between desktop and webtop instances.

  9. because OS is a concept the mass market understands.

    If that assertion is true (never trust a marketer to tell you the truth), then I’d say it is more correct to call it a term the mass market misunderstands, thanks to marketing, and thanks to computers being too damn hard for people to use.

  10. It is somewhat wrong to compare XIOS to other WebTops and/or WebOS, since XIOS is more like a traditional operating system. Like Malik Om pointed out, it runs offline too, which is a big differentiator to all other web technologies and Internet services available today. It also includes an IDE for rapid application development.

    The offline feature proves that there is more going on in XIOS than just being a cool window manager for moving around web applications, mostly executing on the server side (using some server language). XIOS applications are built 100% in XML and are executed directly on the client without any server round trips.

    XIOS does not contain a kernel or device drivers. Why reinvent the wheel? Today’s commodity operating systems handles this with brilliance, what Xcerion wanted to do was to improve the layers of an OS that sits on top of the lowest core. The part of an OS where the most end user value is achieved. We wanted zero-installation and choose to use a browser as the UI rendering engine, however our OS consists of many of the parts that make up a traditional desktop OS. Including process handling, file system and programming APIs.

    Leveraging the network, XIOS uses XML and enables collaboration for all its applications. The OS also features XML Web Services support and a built in transaction manager for keeping all data synchronized in all scenarios. Since XIOS is built using AJAX technologies, current web applications may be run on XIOS (without offline support) and traditional server technologies like Java, PHP or .NET may be used to dynamically create XIOS XML applications (with offline support).

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  12. I thought MSFT fired (retired?) Jim Allchin?

    Ray Ozzie “internet cloud”? Hmmm.

    Interesting choice of name/jargon here, considering that Jim Allchin as a PhD canidate @ GaTech started the CLOUDS distributed operating system project way back in 1982.

    Oh well, who says the technology business is fast paced?

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