Browser Wars: Opera Says It's Not Down or Out

29 thoughts on “Browser Wars: Opera Says It's Not Down or Out”

  1. “We are seeing a lot of widget implementations that are not standardized and don’t work together”

    Two thoughts:

    1) who cares? iPhone app developers are making pretty good money by focusing on one platform!
    2) widgets? I’d like to see the Omnifocus developers faces when they hear such a feature-rich application get called a freaking “widget”!

    Seriously, the iPhone application market is dominating because it’s relatively easy to create sophisticated applications using a development environment that wasn’t designed by sadists. That’s not a trivial advantage.

  2. I will go the other way…Opera has lots of problems with websites. Lots of sites are not supported by this browser. We have seen much problem using Linux also …there is long way to go for Opera to come back into the market of browsers.

    Google Chrome is becoming quite popular with internet users.

  3. Just to switch gears: @sdkrdk – Opera’s rendering engine is one of the most standards compliant around. If a site built by muppets to only work in Internet Explorer fails in Opera, then that’s not Opera’s fault. Thankfully, web designers are far more educated about web standards and best practices and relatively few sites will break outright in Opera.

  4. Been an Opera user for 10 years, it remains the browser with best overall performance including an usable interface, I use it for mail as well. I have tried out all the alternatives including Seamonkey and nothing comes close to Opera.

  5. @Nick-Well, I will agree with you but there are many popular sites that fail in Opera. We used to work in this browser but we had to leave it when we used Ubuntu.

    I will talk to one of my friends who will be able to furnish more details over this issue. Thanks for your comments though.

  6. I don’t think browser really “wars”, I believe.many people already install more then one browser in there system,I myself having 4 browser active and non of them blocking and conflict each system,although all time I use mozila.I m not basically loyal to it. my opera is my secondary update and the other 2 is explorer and safari

  7. “We used to work in this browser but we had to leave it when we used Ubuntu.”

    I don’t really get what the difference the operating system would make, provided the browser’s rendering engine was the same on each platform (and I believe it is in Opera’s case).

  8. @Nick Caldwell:

    … If a site built by muppets to only work in Internet Explorer fails in Opera, then that’s not Opera’s fault. …

    I think sometimes it is Opera’s fault which can not render a full standard compliant page correctly. As an example browse this url with FF, IE or Google Chrome: http://arakara.gozir.com/weblog/ (UTF-8 / Persian text) , check it for CSS/XHTML standard compliance, then browse it with Opera (I have Opera 9.63 installed, in Persian script letters of a word should be joint together and Opera shows them disjoint when you set a letter-spacing:1px for a paragraph, for example it displays ویرایش as و ی ر ا ی ش in this case), it is the only browser which does not support «letter-spacing» for Arabic/Persian languages and renders characters incorrectly. I have already reported this bug using Opera bug report feature more than one time one or two years ago and it is not fixed yet.

  9. Hi folks,

    StatCounter has just released its new Global Stats Research tool – the service allows you to monitor market share data for mobile browsers, mobile operating systems and mobile search – thought it might be of interest!

    http://gs.statcounter.com/

    Also, our research shows that the iPhone now has 24% of the global browser market followed by Opera with 22%. Nokia has 18% followed by Apple’s iPod Touch with 14%. BlackBerry has 5.8% of the global mobile browser market and Sony PSP 3.4%.

    Today’s press release is available here:
    http://gs.statcounter.com/press/iphone-takes-global-lead-in-mobile-browser-wars-statcounter-research/

    All the best!!

  10. Being a loyal Opera user I can’t help but concern about the future of Opera. When Firefox burst into fame a couple of year ago, I didn’t see Opera take advantage to aggressively market itself as another alternative to the IE6 monoploy. When Safari’s popularity is increasing due to Apple’s products, Opera is dropping off from the number 3 spot. Now when people talk about the browser market share, Opera is often went off the radar screen completely. Now they are pinning the hope on Opera mini. But I see few effort to turn around their desktop market share.

  11. sdkrdk:

    # Opera has lots of problems with websites.
    # Lots of sites are not supported by this
    # browser.

    Actually, Opera does support most of those sites. You will find that it’s the site that’s blocking Opera, even without telling you about it. This is caused by buggy browser sniffing scripts written by amateurs.

    Opera was built from the ground up to handle badly coded sites.

    # there is long way to go for Opera to come
    # back into the market of browsers

    It’s already there, and seeing record growth and revenues in all markets.

  12. StatCounterJen:

    # our research shows that the iPhone now
    # has 24% of the global browser market

    Nonsense. At best your stats are US-only. The iPhone only has a high market share in the US. In the rest of the world, it doesn’t.

  13. sdkrdk:

    # Opera has lots of problems with websites.
    # Lots of sites are not supported by this
    # browser.

    Actually, Opera does support most of those sites. You will find that it’s the site that’s blocking Opera, even without telling you about it. This is caused by buggy browser sniffing scripts written by amateurs.

    Opera was built from the ground up to handle badly coded sites.

    # there is long way to go for Opera to come
    # back into the market of browsers

    It’s already there, and seeing record growth and revenues in all markets.

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    StatCounterJen:

    # our research shows that the iPhone now
    # has 24% of the global browser market

    Nonsense. At best your stats are US-only. The iPhone only has a high market share in the US. In the rest of the world, it doesn’t.

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    Wai Yip Tung:

    # Being a loyal Opera user I can’t help but concern
    # about the future of Opera. When Firefox burst
    # into fame a couple of year ago, I didn’t see
    # Opera take advantage to aggressively market
    # itself as another alternative to the IE6 monoploy.
    # When Safari’s popularity is increasing due to
    # Apple’s products, Opera is dropping off from the number 3 spot.”

    Nonsense. Opera has doubled its user base in two years, and keeps growing. Last quarter they set a record with all-time high revenues and profits (as they did the previous quarters as well).

    # Now they are pinning the hope on Opera mini.
    # But I see few effort to turn around their
    # desktop market share.

    Did you even pay attention? Opera does NOT have the low market share NetApps is claiming. They are a bunch of liars:

    http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/index.dml/tag/net%20applications

    And Opera is NOT struggling. Desktop revenues increased more than 100% last quarter!

  14. I think Opera developers can’t be able to see the difference between spacing or no spacing. BTW Arabic letters are kinda funny, you know? They bend over sometimes. This is fun!

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