29 thoughts on “For Nokia’s Ovi, the World (Minus the U.S.) Is Enough”

  1. Om, what I am hearing basically is that Nokia is going to continue to avoid doing Ovi in the US because it doesn’t sell enough phones or do enough deals with the carriers. And now we have a Catch-22 because the carriers are starting to consider the strength of a phones application store as it considers what phones to subsidize or not.

    I really think that Maemo is the direction for Nokia’s future smartphones, but I worry that its application landscape isnt as well developed as S60’s is right now. Of course developing for S60 and installing S60 apps has its own set of idiosyncrasies (hello certificate signing!).

    As it stands I’m still using my Nokia N95-3 NAM phone on AT&T and am mostly happy but I have been eyeing the N900 and am holding out judgement on it before making the $500+ plunge on a new phone. Especially when the Droid looks like a nice piece of hardware hampered by the fact its on CDMA and I want a GSM version of the Droid so I dont have to deal with Verizon’s “There’s a fee for that” mentality.

    1. Daniel

      In a nut shell, the focus overseas makes a lot of sense. In doing so, they will be playing according to their strengths.

      Tero was right in saying that they are in a battle for attention of developers. I think they can grow Ovi overseas and hope that developers actually notice and start to develop for them and turn the tide.

      The way I see it, Maemo is about 12-to-18 months away from being a legit, all out superphone option. They have some work to do and it would be sometime before they start pumping out new phone models with Maemo and build market share.

      On the N900, well it works best on T-Mobile USA’s 3G network and is pretty solid. I am biased toward the CLIQ to be honest, but that is just me.

      PS: Motorola just released a Droid for US, Milestone which is GSM but apparently it is super expensive.

  2. Daniel, I too have the N95 on AT&T I like the phone but find my browser crashing quite a bit and the memory being sapped up. I would never switch to a CDMA phone because I use the internet while I’m on the phone sometimes or get aim messages and don’t want my data connection to drop while on the phone.
    That being said I have ordered the n900 and will give it a go. If I don’t like it I will probably sell it off. Speaking of the Droid though a GSM version is being released in Canada by the start of the new year. This has multitouch capability. You could probably purchase an unlocked GSM droid once they come out in Canada and put it on your carrier. I’ve been eyeing the droid but also the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 which is launching Q1 2010

  3. I’m afraid you’ve let Mr Ojanperä off very lightly. You should have asked him to name one developer who is making money from Ovi. There’s a very good reason why Nokia are not releasing sales figures.

  4. The man is lying when he says ‘OVI is the number 2 download store’. The other stores don’t release download numbers, so he can never tell. My guess would be that Android Market is 2 and Blackberry Store is 3.

    1. Vic,

      Well, given the number of Android phones sold, I think it is safe to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have pinged a few app analytics firms and will update the post accordingly.

      Secondly, I have known Tero for sometime and I can say one thing: he is a very measured man and not one for hyperbole.

    2. Vic,

      The total sales of Android devices has just passed the one million mark. Nokia sell a million phones a day (they sell approx 400 million phones per annum).

      Whilst Tero’s fingers are likely to be estimated I wouldn’t underestimate them given volumes like that.

  5. I was pretty surprissed reading this article on my Blackberry but given the claim it looks
    Like I have no choice but to get a pair of sore thumbs!


    Nokia claims 70 percent month on month growth but offers no download stats
    Nokia doesn’t disclose downloads by handset
    Nokia doesn’t disclose downloads by type (free vs paid)
    Nokia disclosed 10 million downloads globally for the first three months of ovi’s

    Getjar has done over 650 million downloads
    These are 100 percent free
    Facebook alone has done twice Ovis first three months downloads
    Ebuddy has done three times Ovis first three months downloads
    Getjars top 5 apps (top two plus nimbuzz, mig33 and opera) have done
    Alone X10 times ovi’s first three months downloads
    We have been big Nokia fans since back in 2005 and over 40 percent of our
    Global downloads come from nokia devices

    But given all the facts above credit must be given where credit is due:

    GetJar not Nokia is app store number two 😉

    My thumbs are killing me. Good night

  6. I can’t believe Ovi is trying to get away with the claim that they are the #2 app store by downloads — they’re not even releasing numbers!

  7. I can understand semi fanatical users to be fooled by trends but I can’t really understand why would a professional developer/company would ignore symbian where a SINGLE MODEL has already hit 10M mark.

    1. Because the 10M Symbian devices are not guarantee to have data connection. Many of those devices are sold without data plan.

      1. Sorry, but that’s nonsense – the vast majority of those 10 million touchscreen Nokia devices (this is not the same as all Symbian Touchscreen which is a higher number or all Symbian devices which is a vastly higher number) do have data connections and plans.

      2. It’s almost impossible to buy a smartphone without a dataplan included in Europe. You can get E71s for free with ‘unlimited’ data for £15-£20 a month in the UK and they’re cheaper in some other European countries. That’s everything, all in.

        That’s partly why people in Europe buy them. You’d pay 3-5 times as much for an iPhone or Pre. Nokia’s Ovi service is free too, unlike MobileMe. Sure, the Ovi store has less apps but there’s less missing from Nokia’s phones in the first place.

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