Hi, I am a big dumb fat pipe & I am okay with that

10 thoughts on “Hi, I am a big dumb fat pipe & I am okay with that”

  1. Is it fair to compare Hong Kong broadband with the average U.S. city? Sure SF has a population density that rivals HK, as does NYC …but we have far more cities like San Diego with a population density 95% lower than HK where pulling FTTH is pretty pricey. Fortunately wireless solutions are on the way from new network firms….but $20/Gbps is going to be awhile.

    What’s the SLA on this $20/month Gbps

  2. Just because one Telco has decided to sell their network as fat dumb pipes, does not mean others have to follow suit. The business reasons HKBN wants to be a dumb pipe provider could range from the fact that the high density of urban dwellers in Hong Kong reduces their capital needs to the fact that HKBN has no assets and skills to provide additional customer value.

  3. There is a reason behind why American telcos don’t want to be just big dump fat pipes. They have been witness to a whole generation or two of online businesses rise up right before their eyes, using the infrastructure they built and become multi-billion dollar giants like Google. In their minds, they should have a much bigger share of the Internet revolution’s profits than they actually do now. Hence, you see the telcos and cable companies in the US do two things that are NOT about being big dumb fat pipes:

    1. They try to get into the content, service and application business for which they are ill-suited (at least compared to the other tech companies).

    2. They try to get in the way of the new technology companies offering more value and features and services to the general public, using their pipes and spectrum. In short, they get in the way of progress itself.

  4. One big difference is Hong Kong is a relatively small place with a very high housing density. Not exactly an apples/apples compare here. What will Google charge for their service once it goes live in Kansas City?

  5. The one main reason that asian companies are able to offer cheaper rates like these is they pay expired peanuts to their employees. If you work the maths of such a business, rent, commute, telecom etc costs pretty much the same. The only place Asia scores is poor wages. If we are generally OK with companies getting your businnes because they are cheap, because they pay barely subsistence wages etc, then I guess its cool. If you study the ecomonies of the BRIC countries, note the severe and fast increasing gap between the haves and have nots. A typical badband cable laying employee in india can never dream of sending his children to school.they have no social security, insurance, benefits et al, almost none to speak of. A typical security guard in India earns somewhere between USD 50 and 100 a month. Now, with cities like Mumbai, Hong Kong, New Delhi etc where rent is almost the same, if not more expensive than NYC or London, can you imagine the standard of living for these blue collar guys? But I guess as long as my big fat dumb pipe is cheap, why should I bother… I have to upload some more family holiday pics on social media…

    1. I work for HKBN and i can tell you we dont get pay cheap at all. but i can tell you we can sell or internet for that cheap is hong kong housing are just so close to each other

  6. It sounds too good to be true. This article doesn’t inform just beg questions. Like most broadband suppliers they hype up the connection speed. I wonder what the throughput is like at peak times when everyone is online downloading a movie. Whats the coverage, surely they just cherry pick the locations where FTTH is already installed. Maybe they’ve got gazillions of customers who are excited about a 1 gig connection, who knows, I can’t glean anything from this article.

  7. Granting the points about differences in population density and low wages, the emphasis is not on low monthly subscription fee. The emphasis is not even on dumb, fat pipe. Instead the emphasis should be placed on that they are focused on offering service at the Network Layer.

    The argument that companies making billions on their access is spurious. Consider all the companies making money off of electricity. Or gasoline.

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