Joost gets $45 mil from pals, partners

18 thoughts on “Joost gets $45 mil from pals, partners”

  1. Anil – you make some very good points – watching the presentation from Joost ( http://www.scaryideas.com/video/2362/
    ) just a couple of days ago, I arrived at some of the same observations. But I also think the Joost Team is aware of the QoS and QoE issues you have put forth – how they address those issues that’s a whole different topic. I think Akamai could duplicate the “utility” of Joost, but deliver on the QoS and QoE with far more efficiency (their peering architecture with some combination of their recent P2P technology purchase). Your thoughts?

  2. I think Joost is simply over-rated.

    I recently managed to get my beta account and downloaded the software with great trepidation. When I ran the software, it simply didn’t work. I got an error message with something obscure like “Error 221”. Unlike Skype which loaded and worked flawlessly, this software (albeit Beta), simply didn’t do anything.

    Now, when I see obscure error messages, I just have to think that the average user will give up. That’s why Apple TV and not Joost will win. Apple realizes that even if the hardware app doesn’t have every feature, it always works.

    Too bad. I was really hoping Joost would be a winner.

    Has anyone else had problems?

    Bryan Pilsworth,
    Toronto, Canada

  3. Anil – I agree with some of your thoughts on Joost, particularly that it replicates current cable TV. Do you think players like Babelgum and Jaman that offer more niche, “can’t find it anywhere else” content have a better chance at succeeding? Babelgum is actually entirely funded by its founder.

  4. Anil,

    Most of your points are flat-out wrong – whilst there are a number of reasons why Joost could fail, but I don’t think you’ve picked a single one.

    Points 1 & 2 – Joost uses p2p streaming for one good reason, bandwidth. Don’t even think about the possible bandwidth needed for millions of clients sucking content from a centralised content farm, it just doesn’t scale.

    Point 3 – Wrong, Joost is all VOD.

    Point 4 – No user contribution, one word, copyright. Look at the legal mess GooTube are in.

    Point 5 – Open source software? Since when is using industrial quality reliable code a flaw? Not being locked in to a particular supplier or technology is not a downside.

    Point 6 – You can lean back with Joost, hell I do, and the rumoured set top box will make lean back a more heavily used choice.

    Point 7 – Ok, you’ve got a slight hit here, but bear in mind that Joost is run by a company based somewhere in the West Indies, with a dev team in Europe and global server farms. Whose laws apply? Europe has taken a lead in deliberately not applying broadcast regulations to internet content, it may be that the rest of the World will follow suit. Joost has geo-restrictions on its content, so it can self regulate to fit most regional restrictions already.

  5. Though some (parts of) his reasonings are certainly arguable, Anil’s made the right bottom-line call here: Joost is waaaaaaaay overrated.

    The average non-techie (er…that’d be 95%+ of the world’s population) will never, ever use it.

  6. Why would any other broadcaster make its content available to Joost, knowing that a direct competitor (Viacom, CBS) will directly benefit.

    Bad strategic move.

  7. “Joost, the P2P TV creation of Janus Friis and Niklas Zennström, the co-founders of Kazaa and Skype.” Wow! I’m so lost— I hope you succeed beyond your wildest dreams!

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  8. Will Joost succeed? Have Janus Friis and Niklas Zennström failed at anything before?

    I think the biggest PR to anything they do are their names. They might as well start a milk-delivery website tomorrow and I guarantee investors are going to jump on them with open wallets.

    I’ve read a big story on what they are like in life in Fortune when they were starting Skype. They come off as interesting guys, would love the opportunity to meet them.

  9. I just realized that quite a few people replied to me here. Sorry, I did not mean to ignore you. However, we can continue this conversation on my blog unless Om gives us permission to use his virtual living room to have our own party.

    I will of course be blogging about all these issues on my blog on a regular basis.

    Cheers.
    Anil Gupte

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