24 thoughts on “3 of UK Marries Itself to Skype; Shakes Up the Mobile Market”

  1. Here’s the big problem with 3: service.

    On paper, they seem to be a good deal but, once you’ve signed up with them, you have no guarantee that the service will actually work and, if you need to get support, you can look forward to hour after hour of truly clueless, badly organized support from Indians who are unable to help you, even if they cared.

    I had a USB data modem from 3 that never really worked. After wasting weeks trying to resolve the problem, I just gave up and continued paying the £15 per month for the full 18 months of my contract. I am usually very tenacious but so many wasted nights, going round in circles, being transferred to yet another Indian who, apparently, had no notes and needed me to restate the entire problem yet again … I finally sat down, thought about what my precious free time was really worth and wrote off the entire £270.

    Of course, it wasn’t going to be that simple. When my 18 month contract was up, canceling turned out to be just as complicated and on three separate months I was told that my contract was had successfully been canceled but, mysteriously, it always uncanceled itself in time for the next bank debit. I Googled it and discovered that this is standard practice for 3 – once they’ve got you, they will not let you go until you send them a registered letter.

    So, “free” Skype or not, avoid this company like the plague.

  2. I should note that I don’t mean to offend any Indians, I merely mean that it is apparent that many call centers there operate as cheaply as possible and do not give their staff sufficient training to actually solve problems, and the cultural differences, on both sides, can often exacerbate this problem.

    I am sure that if 3 had call centers in the UK, they would be just as clueless.

  3. This is exactly the kind of breaking away from legacy thinking and business models that modern telco’s need to follow. Voice as we (you) knew it has changed. Companies like 3 and BT’s Ribbit are proof positive that Change has come.

    To the Telco’s of the world who are on the sidelines, I say this: “Yes, you can!”


  4. Om,

    I think you missed something. In the begining of the article you state that it is neccasary to buy 3’s data plan. It is not. You need to spend the $3 on the SIM. You than can make calls and message without ever paying 3 another cent for voice, data plan, anything.

    Skype out works except to the UK. Sykein does not work but there are now lots of workarounds for this such as forwarding a SIP DID through opensky.

  5. Om, sorry but 3 are not shaking up the market, they are struggling to make a return on their huge investment in 3G network and license. Staff churn at their HO so fast it is difficult to keep track.
    This is just another marketing gimmick. How many INQ phones did they sell?
    Their competitors offer simillar incentives such as free on network calls and unlimited texts for min top ups.
    The previous comment re. Network quality is a reality. I believe they will struggle to survive the squeeze in a sauturated market.

    1. Well, using 3 UK and Skype and two or three other providers together, that would be possible now to plenty of countries.

  6. My T-mobile Win Mobile phone came with wi-fi Skype *two years ago.* That’s not an opinion, it’s a simple fact. I then used it to call #’s in the US and China every day while travelling overseas, using the world’s other worldwide service provider: Starbuck’s.

    The new developments may make more cash than ever before, but it’s unfair to declare them either revolutionary (Apple) or to denigrate providers that follow their own course (T-Mobile).

  7. as a recent switcher to ThreeUk from the boring and increasingly overpriced virgin mobile (esp. data tariffs) i welcome the move

    btw, i found 3’s cust service was qt reasonable and informed, maybe things have improved since first poster had problems? my switch was early april 2009

  8. why do people act like us customers were ‘given’ wifi calls…

    mobile operators dont own the wifi connections you use.

    i used to use skype on my windows mobile phones years ago over my OWN wifi connection, who would pay to use their own wifi connection?

    i dont know why the mobile service providers act like we owe them credit or something for wifi…

    whats next, they are ‘giving’ us ‘free’ bluetooth connections?

  9. We’ve used 3/Skype for 2 years as a backup mobile system, this is merely an update. 3 suffers from:

    – Lower network availability than its rivals
    – The mobile Skype deal is less useful now as alternatives have arrived on the market, as others above have noted

    Strategically, they are one of the smaller players in a hypercompetitive UK market and that puts them under pressure.

  10. Skype functionality on a mobile is a great function but the real benefit is only when you dial a Skype number.

    Importantly T-mobile on many tariffs offer free landline calls and with O2 also having up to 10 free landline numbers free, for the majority of use the bases are covered.

    However with so many Wi-Fi hotspots out there, its going to be good on your travels.

    Still I think it shows how the operators are moving towards a data driven pricing – and the new Nokia N97 is also confirmed as having Skype functionality. But I think intense users will still stick to standard calling methods.

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