21 thoughts on “Microsoft Turns To Desktop To Rescue Search”

  1. I am completely appalled by your take on this. How is MS “leveraging its desktop monopoly”? How is this any different than what Google did with Dell etc, which btw even you quote here? Its all about money: Google used money to buy into it, so did MS — why add the monopoly color to it?

    Sorry Om, unless I am really misunderstanding things .. you show yet again that its hard to find balanced view on Gigaom — you stink of anti-MS and (perhaps hence) pro-Apple/pro-Google bias.

  2. @Piyush
    I appreciate what you are saying, however, I have learnt from my own blog that whenever you say ANYTHING that is either pro or anti Microsoft, Apple or Linux – you get accused of being a hater or fanboy.

    I believe MS LIVE search is very poor – BUT – I REALLY want it to get better. Google’s domination of the search market is helping no one other than Google. They deserve to be be top of the pile because their search product is soooo good – but I am a fan of competition too.

    Thus, I was pleased to hear Bill Gates announce last week, that one of his pet projects is to ‘make Microsoft the best in search’.

    Let’s hope search becomes more competitive and that it’s achieved through innovation and not JUST financial muscle.

    Jim Connolly

  3. Yeah, this really irks me. It’s sad too that the only way Microsoft can compete with the other innovative incumbents in the search market is to embed the search. They must be hoping the same thing will happen to Google, Yahoo, etc. that happened to Word Perfect with Microsoft Word…Hopefully consumers will see through it.

  4. Piyush.

    Stop being so appalled! In case you were asleep for the last 30 years, Microsoft has the longest history of using its monopoly money to buy and squeeze out competition. Google may have paid for placement as you claim, but against the monopoly of the Microsoft desktop. They have a better product and users that are knowledgeable will re-set their browsers due to that.

    The others, the ones MS is depending on only use whatever is default. That is how they killed off so many competitors in the past!

  5. Sorry, Piyush is right. Google and Microsoft are doing the exact same thing. When Google does it, it’s okay. But if MS does it, it’s “using its monopoly money.” Please.

  6. @Jim:
    Agreed. On ALL the points. Well said.

    You bleed MS-hatred. If only _you_ were not sleeping, you’ll realize that MS did what *exactly* Google did. Why can’t you look at it objectively without MS’s baggage of baddies done over the last 2-3 decades?

    Yep. Exactly. Gigaom, very unfortunately, feeds into this media-loved David-Goliath trend and MS haters. *Anything* good or bad, if its about MS — stay back, armor on, screaaam, its a monopolistic move. How dumb! Om just fell to a new low atleast IMO.

  7. Just clarifying, am no fanboy or hater of any of the companies involved. Nor do I mean to degrade Om — I just voiced my opinion and made an observation.

    Hope you keep your standards up Om, I sincerely hope so!

  8. And in our part(India), HP / Compaq computers are sold with FreeDos OS installed [reduces the price by atleast Rs 2,000]. So this deal makes little sense in our market 🙂

    As far as consumer empowerment, I really love HP for pushing AMD in India as well as FreeDos and let consumer do what he wants.

  9. Dude — they are doing exactly what Google and Yahoo do all the time — pay PC manufactures to set the search as the default — this article represents a significant knowledge gap in the overall search marketplace. I would encourage readers to turn to John Battelle’s Searchblog for a more accurate picture of what is happening in search.

  10. @ Piyush Agarwal

    I think you didn’t really read the article before posting your response. What I wrote was precisely what you said – this was a company strategy for the longest time – buy placement or use desktop as a leverage and grow market share. Aka distribution. Google and Yahoo simply out hustled it on that and as a result it caused some problems. Now they are going back to the time-tested strategy that has won market share for them.

  11. @Om:
    You have quite subtly changed “monopolistic leverage” to “use desktop as a leverage”. It had to buy in — just like Google and Yahoo had to. Did MS get _any_ leverage coz it owns Windows? Nope.

    You just _cannot_ use the term monopoly for any and every investment MS makes. Period. Remove the use of that word, and then your post makes perfect sense of using desktop as a leverage (which in this particular case is no different for MS/Google/Yahoo, irrespective of MS owning Windows).

  12. @Piyush
    You make a very good point. GigaOm seems to think it’s a hip trend to bash Microsoft and simply regurgitate stories from other blogs or sites (such as All About Microsoft etc). They seem to be drinking the Google and Apple Kool-aid, which is not necessarily a bad thing, however sounds extremely biased. I’m not a MSFT or a Google fanboy, just a blog wanderer, and of late noticed that GigaOm doesn’t seem to offer anything of value except pelt a few “MSFT down” stories.

  13. “their search product is soooo good” – but other search engines are also equally good these days. For so many years I am adroit fan of Google search but this year I see myself using other search engines when Google does not find what I want. Some times Yahoo finds more perfect matches for my queries.

    Also they can’t simply sit even if “their search product is soooo good”. Why would Google go out and do partnership with firfox and indulge in OOH advertising if having a good product is just enough. I think “Monopoly” argument is bit exaggerated here.

  14. yeah, I would love to use my pull and power to push my new software. Only ms can get away with this and live to tell about it. Tell me, who else has that power. Show me one small software (misv) company that has successfully gotten their windows product on an hp, a dell, or any other hardware vendor? Its locked down to the major players only who can pay 25million, or give discounts on seats of the o.s.

  15. @Piyush
    Why can’t you look at it objectively without MS’s baggage of baddies done over the last 2-3 decades?

    Sure lets ignore history! That has always worked so well, LOL! While we are at it let’s look at the headline “Microsoft Turns To Desktop To Rescue Search” Nothing wrong with this, it is quite factual.

  16. @Stephen:
    Who said anything was wrong with the headline? That comment of yours further proves you bring nothing to the discussion and are just a mindless non-sensible MS hater (and perhaps hence Gigaom defender). I won’t participate in this thread anymore — I think the point is already made. Adios!

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