20 thoughts on “Personal P2P Getting Hot”

  1. Om, have you heard any more about P2P being hardwired into Leopard? Just curious… Wouldn’t that be cool!? I’ve gotta believe Apple’s got a P2P play up their sleeve with all the video files they’re about to unleash… How’s that play out with DRM factored tho? Or, does it matter?

  2. gerald

    i had heard that there was a built in bittorrent client/technology in the forthcoming version of osx but i am not sure if it is happening or now. if i hear anything, i would post an update. i think it be used by the them for distribution more than anything else. off load some of the costs associated with the distribution. my thoughts, but don’t know anything for a fact.

  3. Om, not sure if you have checked out Microsoft Groove 2007, which will be part of the office suite. We have started testing it at my office and its pretty slick (the beta). It seems like microsoft is jumping on this one.

  4. On Microsoft Groove 2007/Vista: The Achilles’ heel of all such collaboration solutions is that they require all participants to be using the same technology. Microsoft has historically been able to achieve this by bundling and giving away stuff for free but now that they actually want to use this as a reason to upgrade, they will face some adoption challenges. Also, we are increasingly living in a non-windows oriented world (I know the numbers are still largely in favor for Microsoft) where the lowest common denominator is no longer windows but the web.

  5. Hi Om,

    I work with a company that has built a p2p app on Firefox/Mozilla called Civil Netizen. I normally don’t spam anyones comments beyond the url next to my name but seeing that you are covering Pando, I couldn’t resist. Check us out, I am sure you won’t be disappointed with our philosophy and our application.


    The newest versions as we come out of beta will increase our use of torrent style technology.


  6. Om, there’s also Allpeers, which is in closed beta right now. It is a firefox extension, so will (hopefuly) work on all platforms.

  7. badblue.com has been in this space for quite a while as has the Ray Ozzie vehicle (Groove), which was acquired by MSFT. I’m not sure what really happened to Groove since the acquisition. Strangely, it doesn’t seem to get nearly as much press attention since it went into the MS Office/collaboration space.

  8. I have been using YouSendIt.com for a while now which runs as a web-service. But sometimes I have faced file corruption issues when transferring large files. Torrent is a better way for larger files but it has its own issues. I would prefer that these companies use browser as their client rather than another installable.

  9. Personal P2P (P4?) might soon be more important than regular P2P networks. It models more closely how we work as a society, especially an Internet based one.

    One important marketing issue: the barrier to entry to those app is really low. This is why so many start-up have been born.

    The socioeconomics is quite close tocial (MySpace, Friendster,…) and IM (AIM, MSN,…) softwares. The winner takes all?

    One last points: MSN Messenger offer a shared directory with one of your contact. You put a file there, your contact has it.

    Does this mean the grown-ups are already entering this market? Is this already the end of those start-ups?

    Probably not, but they need to think less of technology (and an easy one to master) and more about which market they want (cf. Groove and its position on collaboration application).

  10. Um…, why exactly is anyone calling those services mentioned above p2p? (peerfactor and zapr) If you send a file to a server (eg. a web-server) with a client (eg. a web-browser), and someone else uses a client to get the file from the server, then by definition what you have is a client-server model, not peer-to-peer.

    If you sent the file over MSN, yahoo, etc you could argue that its p2p as the file moves directly from your computer to your friends (between two peers – hence peer to peer), however most IM networks are still considered client-server as you can’t even login to MSN without the MSN servers running.

    IMHO “personal p2p” should be technologies like waste, where small groups of people can setup private file-sharing networks between themselves.

  11. Moving large files in private networks continues to heat up, we started on this path 5 years ago with an application called SpinXpress, lets you create a private invitation network for sharing files directly between peers. There is a major demand for keeping private what is ours to share. Great to see the validation on the market.

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