12 thoughts on “SF WiFi… & the winner Is…Google”

  1. I’ve got to acknowledge a wonderful author and visionary in the voip/wireless area. His name is Frank Ohrtman. I read his book Wifi Handbook in which he laid out the future of wireless technologies. This was over 3 years ago and he has been right on. I can’t wait to read his next book on newer technologies such as IMS, Wimax, etc.

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  3. Citywide WI-FI is fantastic if your don’t have to be a slave to any particular location/s. I wish it would be nationwide.
    in fact, why not worldwide! I like to spend time in the Jamaica. I also like to take my laptop with me but find it difficult to get a decent internet connection appart from going to the local phone company’s store, cyber cafe, or some place that only have dial up connection.

    Run the thing through a satellite if you have to, but please give me my broadband wireless connection worldwide so I can have fun while I work!

  4. From Mercury News
    an Earthlink spokesman estimated that the Google-Earthlink plan would cost $6 million to $7 million to install, and $15 million for maintenance, billing and upgrades over the next 10 years.

    If they got 10,000 subscribers to pay the $20 for 10 years, it would be 10000x20x12x10=24mil. This already cover the cost. The profit from ads could be even bigger.

  5. Can this network be somehow connected to MindSpring VOIP or MVNO (Helio)? I can see VOIP happening, but am not sure about Helio.

  6. The contengency of WiFi and loading of the system assumes bursting [inet up and downloads] not continuous duty telco like seizing the channel. To do Voip reliably [more than a few at a time per node would require a greater bandwidth and or more robustness [low latency and no/lower packet loss]…maybe you could listen to a minute of commercials, per minute used in telephony?

    While you are hanging a big box on a light pole who knows how many transceivers [slots for] are in the box? 700,2.1, 2.3, 2.45, 2.6-2.7, 5.8?

    Why I think the CAPEX/OPEX will be 50% higher than budget.

    Using a 10 year payback as one of the posters did is way too long. Technology will change every 3 years at least for the paying subs…as HSPA will offer 4-5x the bandwidth for $40…2-3 years in.

  7. Google has made noises about open-network support for consumer wifi devices. And I admit their vpn softs are probably pretty secure (as long as you ultimately trust Google). But the point I’m trying to make is that The City of San Francisco is asking certain things of the provider that Google/Earthlink aren’t promising to deliver, yet they won the right to negotiate the contract. Seems fishy, but then so much local politics does.

  8. Dennis, how is HSPA going to offer 4-5 times the bandwidth? Max badwidth for a HSPA radio is < 20 Mbps. Max bandwidth for a 802.11g radio is 54 Mbps. Now neither will reach anywhere close their capabilities in the real world, but it’s safe to say a well designed WiFi network has an advantage in raw bandwidth over any 3G technology. As always, actual speeds to the user depend more on implementation than hardware.

  9. Well, here it is year 2010, and we all know what happened w/Google and free wifi. It bombed, totally. Well, San Francisco sucks big time, always has, always will…so why should free Internet be an exception?

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